Remember Barbara Walters at the peak of her game? Boris Yeltsin, Fidel Castro, Margaret Thatcher, King Hussein of Jordon, and Monica Lewinsky… the list goes on and on. Notorious for her hardball questions of key personalities, Walters set the standard for memorable interviews.
Well, today, thanks to the hard work of a noble Wobbly Warrior, I had my Barbara Walters moment: an interview with Nick Phillips, the name behind Libra, and the rock-star of the anti-Wobbly crusade.
Chat History with Nick Phillips
General Aud Henz:
Nick Phillips? I must say, I am thankful that Colonel XXXXXX initiated contact.
Nick Phillips:
Yes, so are we. Phew, that was close! Can we talk? I have to leave soon.
General Aud Henz:
I’d love a short Q&A. Can we do it through chat? I do not have a microphone for skype talk.
Nick Phillips:
Go ahead with your questions.
General Aud Henz:
I do not know if you have followed the anti-Wobbly campaign closely. We’re celebrating all that stabilization products can bring to the industry and showcasing individual products and the problems that they help to solve/address on set. I’m glad that we have been able to get in touch with you - you’re a rock star of the anti-Wobbly scene. The insight you can grant our readers on the Libra product will benefit the industry as a whole.
Nick Phillips:
I know about your constructive efforts but to be honest haven’t had time to follow too closely. My wife tells me about it and so do some of our agents.
General Aud Henz:
Can you tell us a bit about Libra’s history? What attracted you to fighting Wobbly?
Nick Phillips:
Started 20 years ago as a desperate effort to get away from bungees and the like! First show was the first ‘CastAway’ (Nick Roeg). There were 22 stabilised shots in this movie and I was proud of every one of them! As there is 20 years up to the latest model (Blue Stripe) where to I start with a full history?
General Aud Henz:
Our main focus is identifying that there isn’t one Wobbly product that’s a silver bullet for all problems faced by the cinematographer. We like to believe that each product has its niche and can offer value for different situations. Do you agree in general with The General on this statement? If so, where do you see Libra positioned in the anti-Wobbly arsenal?
Nick Phillips:
Absolutely agree entirely. The right tool for the job. We are quite often alongside a Steadycam and a Wescam or XR, all on the same insert vehicle.
General Aud Henz:
You’ve done a great job positioning the Libra as the workhorse for solving a wide-range of Wobbly at wider focal lengths. Part of what we hear from the industry is that your value comes from being on set and experiencing first-hand what should be done. Fighting in the trenches is smart R&D, no? What is your opinion on other anti-Wobbly products that fall into the performance range of the Libra - specifically the Scorpio… where do you see the difference between your anti-Wobbly weapon and the Scorpio?
Nick Phillips:
Thanks for your kind words. I love the coal-face and it is imperative to get first hand experience to see what the demands are. I have close ties with cinematographers and welcome their comments. Re the comparison, we are smaller, lighter, more adaptable for numerous applications, and we can run off a Panavision battery. Libra was originally developed for small cameras and prime lenses. The industry has demanded that we carry larger loads. This we are addressing with the Blue Stripe.
General Aud Henz:
Thanks for your response. I only asked about that anti-Wobbly specifically because from LA to NYC it appears that they’re coming after the same market segment that you currently dominate.
Nick Phillips:
Yes, we are very aware that Scorpio is after the technocrane market but I can’t imagine it doing half the other stuff we are asked to do e.g shooting pipeline waves on the back of a Seadoo? Operator on the beach, of course, operating remotely with a gin and tonic at hand!
General Aud Henz:
G&T’s…. A real treat given the current weather. Maybe you can tell us the difference between a Libra 4th and Libra 5th (is that the Blue Stripe?)
Nick Phillips:
The Libra 4 was our first effort to get away from analog and enter the murky world of motion control. The Libra 4 is noisy and not popular on sound sets, though it holds up really well on rough and tough stuff. The Libra 5 has vast electronic improvements leading us further into a fully motion control, aviation approved, stage, road and marine product. The noise issue has been resolved along with many other nuances. The Libra 5 was a test bed for the Blue Stripe which is being released shortly. John Toll is taking the first one.
General Aud Henz:
John Toll is taking it for use? Or to distribute and rent to productions?
Nick Phillips:
John is taking it on his next film project. One of our US agents is handling the deal.
General Aud Henz:
Yes/No: The anti-Wobbly industry as a whole currently provides too much misleading marketing mumbo-jumbo in bitter infighting between the various groups and the cinematographers suffer because of this?
Nick Phillips:
Agree about marketing mumbo jumbo which just confuses what the cinematographer is after. I tell our agents to be truthful and honest about our strengths and our limitations.
General Aud Henz:
Speaking of limitations, we try to be fair and balanced (yet positive) about all anti-Wobbly weapons… are you brave enough to share some of the limitations of the Libra and situations where it would be best for cinematographers to get a different tool in the anti-Wobbly arsenal?
Nick Phillips:
This is a very difficult one to answer. Ridley Scott made me put a 500mm on the head for GI Jane. I told him it wouldn’t work and he said ‘I’ll be the judge of that’! He got the two seconds he was after. As a general rule the Libras up to Libra 5 can handle a 4:1 and we are struggling past 80mm. However, the ‘down and dirty’ second unit stuff we do is quite often on primes. We are experimenting with the Blue Stripe with longer lenses and getting good results. The cinematographer has to rely on his experience and the type of look he is after. We have been asked many times to loosen the shot up to cut with the rest of the scenario. There are generic terms “That’s a Steadycam shot”,” That’s a Wescam shot”,” That’s a Libra shot”, even though the actual anti-Wobbly device is none of those. Interesting that the industry sees it this way………
General Aud Henz:
It really is interesting, I wonder how that perspective will change and shift over time… And thank you for your candid response - it is a breath of fresh air to have an anti-Wobbly manufacturer speak honestly. I suspect that that openness is part of your success.
Nick Phillips:
I am passionate about the progress of cinematography and embrace new ideas and concepts, even though they may be competition to us.
General Aud Henz:
Yes/No: The wonderful performance produced by the Libra is thanks to the ingenious design of having roll in pan?
Nick Phillips:
Yes, that’s one of them! Makes it extremely difficult to stabilise, though.
General Aud Henz:
……Yes/No: The Libra is the strongest anti-Wobbly brand? As in more people know and respect the Libra brand than any other anti-Wobbly brand?
Nick Phillips:
I hope and believe so. I guess it’s been around longer than most. Sir Ron and I started out about the same time. I think it was Flash Gordon! Am I right Ron?
General Aud Henz:
We’ll see if Ron appreciates that obscure reference when we share this with the fellow Knights.
Nick Phillips:
Tell him from me, in my opinion he has the best aerial system for the film industry in the world. No one can touch him.
General Aud Henz:
Ron has done some wonderful things with his technology - he deserves to be very proud.
General Aud Henz:
Okay Nick, I don’t want to take any more of your time - you’ve been very kind to give me this much already. You truly are the rock-star of the anti-Wobbly world, if not a bit Keyser Soze-ish (adds to the image, no?), and I appreciate you reaching out to us like this. I’m honored to have you at the Knights of the Wobbly Table table. A real treat. If you have any questions for me, please don’t hesitate to ask.
Nick Phillips:
Thanks, General. It’s been a pleasure and hope it contributes to your good cause. You now have my e-mail so contact me anytime you wish. Unfortunately, don’t have time to get to Cinegear. Will take you up on the Fosters another time! Good luck and keep up the good work. It’s an honour to be one of your Knights!
General Aud Henz:
‘Till next time……………
Nick Phillips:
Indeed.
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